THE CONTEST: KILLER CROC versus TALISMAN
It had to happen! The Grandmaster has watched the Secret Wars on
Infinite Earths for many years and now he comes with a challenge: I must
select 12 heroes & villains from the DC Universe to do battle
against his Champions of the Marvel Universe! Grandmaster's team
competed in the first Contest of Champions and set an allowance of 5000pts based on fixed Fight Club Rankings. Each battle will be decided by you in fantasy fight polls held on Twitter, Facebook and Patreon!
Tale of the Tape...
Strength: Killer Croc 5 (Super-Human)Intelligence: Talisman 3 (Straight A)
Speed: Killer Croc 3 (Athlete)
Stamina: Killer Croc 4 (Athlete)
Agility: Draw 2 (Average)
Fighting: Draw 3 (Street Wise)
Energy: Talisman 2 (Projectiles)
Total: Killer Croc 20 (Champion)
The Grandmaster spent big on the last battle and he pretty much schooled me in the process. Now he's back conserving points with a debut that'll cost him zero. I can't afford to waste my allowance at this stage of the game, but I don't want another loss. I've looked to the bottom of the ranks and I think I may've come up with an interesting challenger that will only cost me 6pts!
Talisman is Grandmaster's champion I need to beat. He's a mysterious Australian mystic who can convene with The Dreaming (or Dreamtime): an ethereal plane that allows him to perceive the world as an astral presence privy to the knowledge of creation and his aboriginal ancestors.
Like other characters who debuted in the original Contest of Champions: Talisman has rarely been seen since. His best known offensive capability is inflicting the disorienting effects of Dreamtime upon his opponents. He does this by channeling its energies through his sacred tjurunga - which happens to be a sound-making bullroarer compromised of two short sticks swung by a string tether.
The reference to tjurunga means Talisman is probably of the Central Australian people of the Arrernte. Their traditional land don't extend north enough for a lot of crocodile activity, but I'm willing to wager Killer Croc will fit in with the Australian outback just fine!
Waylon Jones was born with a skin condition that caused him to develop natural reptilian features. He was a carnival strongman before turning his natural physical might to a life of crime. We saw this basically human Killer Croc come off second-best against Bane in Batman #489, and the Dark Knight himself in Batman #621.
Over time Croc has been mutated further into a literal crocodile-man, as seen in Batman #608, enhancing his strength and durability considerably. His physical dominance should offer a significant advantage over Talisman, but it's also his animalistic mind that might defend him from Talisman's best attack. Killer Croc can sometimes be reduced to a savage beast and I think that will allow him to resist disorientation -- rampaging through to victory!
The Verdict...
Obscurity seemed to get the better of this one as voters struggled to make heads or tails out of The Grandmaster's little known champion.
There was some confusion with the better known Alpha Flight character, but all the information you could ever need was available right here, so it didn't matter in the end.
Drawing from that information; Nazar Talk Comics felt the case for Talisman and his mind altering powers was a little more convincing: "... I might go Talisman. From your explanation he seems to take the upper hand."
In the intervening week we examined Talisman's only notable battle to expand further upon his abilities. The esoteric nature of projecting Dreamtime showed clear potential to disorientate, but to what extent that could actually harm an opponent remained unclear.
Talisman appears to leave his body during Dreamtime projections, which seemingly limits their consequence to the mind. Further doubts about his offensive capabilities grow when noting he never actually rendered any definitive offensive attacks against Invisible Woman. She even managed to come to grips with his sense-altering plane, leaving questions about Talisman's fighting potential
Killer Croc ultimately presented a much less complicated option. His famous strength and animalistic mindset offered a direct course for 75% of a small Twitter turnout to declare him victor.
That means Round 8 mercifully goes to Secret Wars on Infinite Earths!
We'll be back for Round 9 sometime soon! Keep your mind open to The Contest for the latest fantasy fights and all previous results. Be sure to visit Twitter, Facebook, and Patreon for even more updates & polling options. Let me know what you thought of this result there, or in the comments section.
Winner: Killer Croc
The Grandmaster: - 4 (2859pts)
Secret Wars on Infinite Earths: - 4 (1917pts)
Talisman is Grandmaster's champion I need to beat. He's a mysterious Australian mystic who can convene with The Dreaming (or Dreamtime): an ethereal plane that allows him to perceive the world as an astral presence privy to the knowledge of creation and his aboriginal ancestors.Like other characters who debuted in the original Contest of Champions: Talisman has rarely been seen since. His best known offensive capability is inflicting the disorienting effects of Dreamtime upon his opponents. He does this by channeling its energies through his sacred tjurunga - which happens to be a sound-making bullroarer compromised of two short sticks swung by a string tether.
The reference to tjurunga means Talisman is probably of the Central Australian people of the Arrernte. Their traditional land don't extend north enough for a lot of crocodile activity, but I'm willing to wager Killer Croc will fit in with the Australian outback just fine!
Waylon Jones was born with a skin condition that caused him to develop natural reptilian features. He was a carnival strongman before turning his natural physical might to a life of crime. We saw this basically human Killer Croc come off second-best against Bane in Batman #489, and the Dark Knight himself in Batman #621.
Over time Croc has been mutated further into a literal crocodile-man, as seen in Batman #608, enhancing his strength and durability considerably. His physical dominance should offer a significant advantage over Talisman, but it's also his animalistic mind that might defend him from Talisman's best attack. Killer Croc can sometimes be reduced to a savage beast and I think that will allow him to resist disorientation -- rampaging through to victory!
The Verdict...
Obscurity seemed to get the better of this one as voters struggled to make heads or tails out of The Grandmaster's little known champion.
There was some confusion with the better known Alpha Flight character, but all the information you could ever need was available right here, so it didn't matter in the end.
Drawing from that information; Nazar Talk Comics felt the case for Talisman and his mind altering powers was a little more convincing: "... I might go Talisman. From your explanation he seems to take the upper hand."
In the intervening week we examined Talisman's only notable battle to expand further upon his abilities. The esoteric nature of projecting Dreamtime showed clear potential to disorientate, but to what extent that could actually harm an opponent remained unclear.
Talisman appears to leave his body during Dreamtime projections, which seemingly limits their consequence to the mind. Further doubts about his offensive capabilities grow when noting he never actually rendered any definitive offensive attacks against Invisible Woman. She even managed to come to grips with his sense-altering plane, leaving questions about Talisman's fighting potential
Killer Croc ultimately presented a much less complicated option. His famous strength and animalistic mindset offered a direct course for 75% of a small Twitter turnout to declare him victor.
That means Round 8 mercifully goes to Secret Wars on Infinite Earths!
We'll be back for Round 9 sometime soon! Keep your mind open to The Contest for the latest fantasy fights and all previous results. Be sure to visit Twitter, Facebook, and Patreon for even more updates & polling options. Let me know what you thought of this result there, or in the comments section.
Winner: Killer Croc
The Grandmaster: - 4 (2859pts)
Secret Wars on Infinite Earths: - 4 (1917pts)
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